phdmatt--match/ziplight/zippo

[Hunter007]

Hey, I couldn't figure out how to get a PM sent here...if there are even PMs and LT is obviously shot.

I remember you making a Ziplight modification to make matches pop out of it. Being fairly new to cigars, as much as I appreciate a Zippo it definitley won't cut it for lighting a cigar. It's too troublesome and besides a match burns it cleaner if I remember correctly? If you'd be able to post some pictures again and perhaps a tutorial it'd be greatly appreciated. Oh and if you have a Ziplight around that you don't want...let me know and if you use PayPal maybe we can figure something out. Thanks a lot in advance!

Hunter007

[phdmatt2002]

sorry hunter wasnt me, i think it was imaginasian (S. flordia resident)

but for the guy who did it
i think he took the bulb out and insert a piece of spring steel, or just turned the case upside down and let the match come out, (someone suggested spring steel) and he had a piece of "strike on box" paper placed over the red on/off switch.
spanishflea suggested he superglue some sand on the bottem for the strikable surface

i just have one ziplight got it from spanish flea(www.spanishflea.com) , he has a lot of them, he does trades also.

i did make an anatomy of a ziplight picture, ill post that tommorow so you can get some ideas

[Spanish Flea]

phdmatt2002 said:

i did make an anatomy of a ziplight picture, ill post that tommorow so you can get some ideas

I would like to see that.

Spanish Flea

[Hunter007]

Thanks guys. Flea is sending me a broken ziplight sometime next week for me to tinker around with. I don't want to wreck my only shot so if anyone would be able to find that tutorial it'd be great. The suggestions are appreciated once again and maybe with some help from the fine members of LL we can get it together so that I can make it. A full tutorial and pictures will follow if I can get it up and runnning properly.

Hunter007

[phdmatt2002]

www.deviantart.com/deviation/36987855/
its a little crappy right now, i made it last year

hunter: if you want to post a tutorial, you can post one here and just link it to the forums or main page or whatever

www.instructables.com/ (click red explore square) they have some stupid stuff like how to make a sandwich but most of the projects are cool

[Hunter007]

Thanks Matt, this should be really helpful. I just have to figure what components need to come out and how the matches need to be cut and fit into the insert for it to actually work properly.

Hunter007

[seiyaryu55]

You have to remember that if you plan on lighting cigars with matches that fit into a zippo they just arent long enough. Your going to have to use a lot such as taking a few and lighting them all up for a big flame and repeating that at least another time. Some of the match is wasted since you have to let the sulfer burn off.

Ive heard great things about the butane insert blazer makes. Only problem is apparently that it doesnt hold as much fuel as some people would like.

Of course zippo also claims that if you let the zippo burn off a little it wont affect the cigar. In reality you should probably try it yurself as its kinda split between zippo and non-zippo users.

Heres the guide zippo came out with that flea had posted up:

www.box.net/public/q1afflunm9


Anyways i do remember that zippo match thread and if im not mistaken eventually the person just used it as a holder and tipped it over to get a match.

It doesnt look like theres a lot of space in the zip light to work with so that kinda make it hard to make some system to push up a match. the only thing i can see right now is to have a staple shaped thing inside where matches fall on. another piece of metal then pushes it and lifts up the match. Matches are light so friction alone should do it.

Im pretty free all summer so if i manage to find a place that sells sheet metal im think up of some stuff too.

[Hunter007]

Hmm, I definitley forgot to consider that. It would burn really fast wouldn't it? Blazer makes inserts for Zippo cases? I'll check out the guide, but I'm not too sure if the Zippo is going to do it for me or not. Besides, this is a cool side project, but isn't seeming too practical right about now.

Hunter007

Good idea about the staple-like piece of metal, but wouldn't that limit me to putting a certain number of matches inside? If each match has to fall on one of the two points? Or do you just mean that general shape, and the base, not necessarily the points can be used to push it up?

[phdmatt2002]

what about them thin strips of metal in those anti thief rectangles for CD packages, they are flexable, and springy, maybe insert one at the base bent in a half moon shape (bend on top)

or stan, if you have enough time modifing a mechanical pencil mechanism to use the red on/off button "to push" a match up

[seiyaryu55]

Heres a sketch of the design (yes its horrible, im horrible at art):

img.photobucket.com/albums/v38/ziptrickhead/IMG_0425.jpg
img.photobucket.com/albums/v38/ziptrickhead/IMG_0426.jpg


Anyways how i see it is you have a bar one the left of the matches that constantly push the matches towards the right of the zippo. On the right of the insert you have a hinged arm. When the "button" is pressed, itll push down one side of the arm lifting up the other side (which has the match wedged in between 2 triangular pieces of rubber. It looks like its something i can do when i get the sheet metal. My only problem right now is the hinge for the arm.

[Hunter007]

Wow, what a complicated project this has become. I have no problems with that, but I don't think I'll be able to do what you're doing sei. That may be a little TOO complicated for me. Keep the posts coming and we'll see how far we can get with this.

-Kegan

[phdmatt2002]

remember in 04 about this time of year, this guy wanted to make a Zippo insert that holds liquid fuel, after a couple months of sugestions he finally epoxies the bottem in, filles the insert up and couldnt get the fuel out.

i wonder what happened to him

[seiyaryu55]

img.photobucket.com/albums/v38/ziptrickhead/Untitled1.jpg

LOL. Ok i wasnt the one who couldnt get the fuel out. My design had considered the vacuum in the insert. I just never finished it because i couldnt get the insert tight enough that fuel wouldnt leak out.

[Hunter007]

What do you mean an insert that could hold liquid fuel? Just retain it so that it could be later used to fill up another Zippo? Or use it as a reserve in one of his Zippos so that when his fluid ran out, he could fill it up by using the reserved fuel?

-Kegan

...I'm trying to remember this, but it's not clicking. What was he trying to do? I know I was around for this, but I just can't remember exactly what he was doing.

[seiyaryu55]

Yur first was right. It was just an insert to hold fuel for ANOTHER zippo. lol. More of a gimmick than anything practical.